LIGHT POSTING TODAY, BUT TELL US WHO YOU LIKE.

Lou Holtz. Anyone who will pee in Mark May’s Cheerios gets my vote.

Keith Jackson. How could anyone NOT want to listen to a game he calls?

His job change was probably better for his 401(k) than it will be for his winning percentage, but IU’s Terry Hoeppner is about as warm and decent a human being as you’ll ever see roaming a college sideline.

And, even though he’s been out of the college game for a couple of years, I nominate former Kent State head coach and current Patriots’ d-coordinator, Dean Pees. Pees once expressed his frustration with his secondary to a reporter by saying, “All week in practice, they played like Deion Sanders; on Saturday, they played like Dionne Warwick.” You’ve GOT to love a guy who would give that quote.

Ohio State Marching Band. As a Spartan fan, I despise the Buckeyes, but even a rival has to appreciate the script Ohio.

By Beattherush’s logic, Mark May also makes the list because anyone who will tell Lou Holtz he’s being silly and incoherent deserves inclusion, too.

The better rule is that Holtz and May cancel one another out, like antimatter and an even more annoying, lisping form of antimatter.

I’m pleased to see the Richtster on the list. I freely admit to being biased in his favor, but I wouldn’t advocate the inclusion of just any Georgia coach. (Jim Donnan? Not so much with the nice guy.)

While I’m here, I hope you won’t mind if I use your space for a bit of self-aggrandizement: Kyle on Football has moved to Dawg Sports. This has been a public service announcement.

Deep down, is there anybody who doesn’t love JoePa? He’s your typical cranky, old school grandfather but he’s roaming the sidelines Fall Saturdays. He’s everything that’s right with a program: supreme focus on academics, he’s loyal to a fault, honest, witty a proven winner and the alumni love him. He is the face of Penn State.

In the late 60s, JoePa was making about $30K a year at Penn State. He turned down a million a year as Head Coach of the New York Giants because of his feelings and his family’s feelings towards Penn State. In the mid 90s, he was the Chairman of Penn State’s first real fund raising campaign. Joe and his wife donated over $3 million towards the library. His salary has never been disclosed (much to the dismay of the media), but I’d be absolutely shocked if he was making a million or more a year.

Thus, I nominate JoePa for EDSBS nice guy award!

Yeah, he’s my coach, but Mack Brown is one of the nicest coaches around. Hell, for a long time one of the big knocks against him was that he was too nice to his players (unlike, say, Stoops) and consequently couldn’t get them to win the big games. And how did he finally get Texas over the top? He pulled a Stuart Smalley and let Vince Young “just be Vince”. He’s run off recruits by trying to hug them during visits… ok, never mind on that one. Anyway, he’s about as pleasant as a coach can be.

I hate keith Jackson. How about if you figure out WTF is going on in the game when you are calling it Keith. I hate JoePa, deep down I hate JoePa. Deep down I think he has a heart of Black pus and that he has been dead for about 10 years. Lou can’t be on the list since he was on the most hated list… or was he, I can’t remmber now. How about Tommy West? Down to earth no nonsense guy, brought winning to a program that definitely needed it. Stole the big name recruit from several SEC schools. Seems like the likeable guys rarely come from big name programs because you have to be a little bit of an A-hole to get there.

I agree with the Weis suggestion. Yeah I’m being a homer, but c’mon, look at the (non-football) body of work during the inaugural season. He expects nothing but the best from his players, honored dying Montana’s pass-right call on the one yard line, went to the visiting locker room to congratulate USC after a heart-wrenching loss, kicked off the team’s leading rusher after the second game of the year when he got a DUI (his first offense), honored the visiting Navy team, etc. The guy is class.

BTW, if we’re going beyond Division I-A, I’ll also nominate John Gagliardi of St. John’s of Minnesota, just because he’s so radically different from anyone else who coaches college football.

i’d grudgingly vote for herbstreit.

and how about sly croom?

Erin Andrews, for being hot yet not being a complete idiot.

Joe Paterno, because he’s 80 years old yet can still dance at pep rallies, yell at players, and go chasing after referees in a manner that makes you believe he fully intends to do them bodily harm.

D.J. Shockley. I know I’m being a king-sized homer here, but he has the patience of a saint, he makes good grades, he’s nice, and oh yeah, he just had a kickass season, yet hardly ever spouted any trash talk, even when he’d clearly earned the right to.

Ron Franklin and Chris Spielman, because they’re two of the few remaining CFB announcers who add to, rather than detract from, my enjoyment of a football game.

I’ll nominate Sylvester Croom.
Not enough good things can happen to Syl. It’s a shame he’s stuck in Starkville. Strict, honest, father-figure, gracious in victory and humble in defeat. All substance, no hype.

I’m calling bullshit on Sly Croom. He’s been publically bitter ever since Bama chose Shula over him.

Rather than follow the examples of the preceding posts and nominate Brady Quinn, Jeff Samardzija, Notre Dame’s water boy, and anyone else connected with the university, I will instead nominate Ron “Burgundy” Franklin.

How about the Marshall University football team?! Oh wait….wrong list.

I’m no Domer homer (in fact, like every college football fan who doesn’t actively root for Notre Dame, I actively root against Notre Dame), but I agree with DannyND01 in comment number 9.

For the reasons Danny states, Charlie Weis is a nice guy and a class act. He definitely deserves to be on the list, if for no other reason than that he declined to answer reporters’ questions until he had taken the time to pay his respects to Navy after the game.

No matter how much you hate Notre Dame (and hate Notre Dame I do), there’s no way to spin that as anything other than admirable.

You know what, I may get laughed at for this, but here’s another one: Mike Price. Yeah, he’s got a bit of a chequered past, but what did he do that was so bad? He liked ass and titties a little too much. Who are any of us to be judging a man for liking ass and titties?!? He’s taken a near-hopeless situation in El Paso and turned them into contenders (of a sort), everything I’ve seen and heard about him indicates he loves coaching and gets along great with the players and fans, he just seems like a guy who really enjoys life. Anyone who can still have that kind of attitude after the beating he took in losing the Alabama job can’t be all that bad.

I have this plaque in my kitchen that says "A friend will bail you out of jail . . . a true friend will be sitting next to you in the cell going, ‘Damn, that was fun!’ " Price seems like that second kind of guy. I can’t help but like him.

Paul Johnson at Navy. Wins consistently with ridiculous limitations on recruiting and alumni resources. In only his third season at Navy he tied the school record for wins in a year. Style of play is enjoyable as hell to watch. Coaches at one of the three schools that everyone, by federal law, has to respect and appreciate. In just his fourth season, the Midshipment won their third straight C-in-C trophy, which had never been done before at Navy. Won two national titles at Georgia Southern, and in doing so actually took a chance on Adrian Peterson (shunned by big schools because of his stuttering problem). This guy represents exactly what is right about college football. Period.

Free Logan Young, Re: Croom
I would argue Croom has been more “revenge minded” rather than “publically bitter” towards Alabama since they hired the obviously more qualified Mike Shula. But that’s just semantics. Perhaps EDSBS should revise the list to include those most liked by everyone other than Bama, because if we exclude all the candidates bitter at Alabama then who would be left?

Mike Price’s downfall wasn’t the ass and titties. It was his love for the sauce. Numerous stories of him puking on the strip long before he got canned.

On a lighter note, how about Demeco Ryans? I know he’s not technically in college football anymore, but could you ask for a better kid? Good leader on the field and off. Encouraged players to help Katrina victims. Encouraged teammates to pick up after themselves so the janitors wouldn’t have to do it. Graduated with a degree in business management on time (actually early), with a good GPA. Oh yeh, and he hits with wreckless abandon on the field, and looks like he will be a good player in the NFL.

Pete Carroll. I know, i know this seems like a chicken shit nomination, but I am not including him because of the hype, rather despite it. His “mad bastard” style of football is addictive. Any one of you would love it if your coach was as aggressive as he is. Even in a loss I will always respect him for going for it on on 4th down with the National championship on the line and (especially) for coming after Vince young instead playing prevent. Sure, it may have cost him the game, but he has confidence in his players and its fun to watch.

Ron Franklin definitely should be on the list. He’s the voice of college football if you ask me.

I agree with the Spurrier nomination. Since he rarely slams my team and rubs our faces in the dirt, I can respect his cocky attitude of telling you how he’s going to beat you and then going out and doing it.

I second Mark Richt, b/c I love and respect the way he coaches.

As for Sly Croom, I like what he stands for and how he goes about his business. I just think he tends to make too many excuses sometimes for not performing.

Lastly, I’d like to nominate Rich Brooks of Kentucky and whoever the head coach at Duke is for their contribution to many happy Saturdays for opposing fans.

Spurrier is like the Kurt Angle of college football. He’s doing such amazing work that even when you hate him, you love him.

Gotta call bs on the Mack Brown suggestion. Not since Terry Bowden has one man’s voice caused my, ahem, body, to pucker more. And there’s something about his almost successes of the pre MNC years, and the constant lobbying that kind of sickens me.

On Richt: I still say he looks like a bible salesman. But maybe the kind of good guy who will have a beer with the guys even though he doesn’t drink more than one at any sitting ever.

If Lane Kiffin has any of what Papa Monty has, he can make the list in a few years.

Spurrier, growing up he was my favorite, then I ended up watching him run up the score with a reverese pass up 15 or so with 2 minutes left in the game. This was in 98 and I guess he was still smarting from the loss in 97. He is a likeable bastard.

Rice marching band, they are funny and they run around with a big drum.

Mac Brown, I am a homer but he does have a national rep as a nice guy.

Joe Pa, for all reasons stated above.

Pete Carroll, but for none of the reasons stated in comment 22. What does that have to do with him being nice tzubear?

I nominate that hot girl who roots for/goes to FSU, I think Fabiola was her name. You all saw the pictures right?

For actual nomination, however, I choose a Player. Good ole Calvin Johnson, reallly good kid, sick football skills, great family and good student…all of that warm fuzzy shit. Coulda gone anywhere but went to a school with harder academics anyway.

Another vote for Carroll, for a couple reasons…
1. The prank he pulled with LenDale White was great.
2. Shortly before Vince scored the game winner, there was a camera shot of Carroll walking up the sideline, and he smiled at a assistant coach. The next camera shot was of Vince in the huddle, smiling at a teammate. Perfect moment in cruchtime.

Also a vote for Beamer and his boil.

Gary Barnett is a nice guy, as long as you are male who likes to frequent strip clubs.

Jeff Bowden is a wonderful man, as far as Gators and Wolfpack fans are concerned.

Bobby Bowden is the apex of humanity for people who want extra hypocrisy with their religiosity, with an added dollop of senility

I will throw down for Tedford for the simple reason that he decided to stay at California when he could have easily gone to another school where the academics standards are lower and for bringing hope to the “Badnews Bears.”

“Go Bears!”

Chalk another one up for Paul Johnson. Can’t beat the tradiiton of the school or the style of offense. Saturday’s in Annapolis could be college footballs best kept secret.

Re: #28

I actually think Beamer is the biggest phony in CFB. Even bigger than Bobby Bowden, if that’s possible.

The New York Giants offered JoePa a million a year in the late sixties? You sure about that?

P.S., Keith Jackson is teh suxorz. He may have been great once, but listening to him fumble his way through the game demeans everyone involved.

Holly Rowe is all sorts of likeable.

I concur on calling bullshit on Croom. His comments on the lack of class of the players at Alabama, and his comments on Jimmy Johns never getting to play QB at Alabama, which will probably be true, had no business being said. Commenting negatively on a prospect, who he lost incidentally, and their playing time is low down.

Agreed Phil, Jackson is an iconic figure, and I enjoy hearing him when he has a script (like the gateraid commercials). During a live game though he’s awkward.

I’m posting without reading the prior comments, so I am not likely to be the first with this one.

Ron Franklin.

Best play by play guy in CFB; good guy; class act, one of the few remaining great things about ESPN. Such a shame that he has such a fucking moron for a broadcast partner.

I’m no expert on Steve Martin up at Vandy, but from what I know he seems very likeable and a class act.

Lastly, the training table/buffets at Kansas and Maryland. Likeable? I bet those things are flat-out fucking amazing.

Craig Krenzel? Did anyone know that he majored in molecular genetics? I’m speaking tongue-in-cheek of course.

Jason – The Sparties are not rivals of tO$U.

I vote for John L. Smith. How can you not like a guy who cries on the sidelines? What a softie.

I hate to have to do this, but I must disagree with #9 and my buddy King Kyle’s endorsement.

Charlie Weis’ heroics are only public heroics because of the perennial ND media reach-around.

I’m in no way saying Charlie Weis is a bad coach or not a class act, but to put him on the list simply because his time at the children’s hospital was on ESPN more times than anyone else’s just seems slanted.

Actually, I was thinking of Bobby Williams. John L., Bobby, it is so hard to keep all the loser MSU coaches straight.

A short list:
Weis (for the reasons mentioned, and I’m a homer, so take that how you will)
Herbstreit
Paul Johnson
I’ve gained a lot of respect for Mack Brown and Pete Carroll over the last couple of years. Doesn’t mean I like ‘em, but I do respect ’em.
I also have to give a nod to the Tennessee fans. I went down there for a game in 2004 and was treated exceptionally well, and those who came up in ’05 were just as awesome. I don’t mean to say other fans aren’t good, but I think it’s worth mentioning that there are some stellar, grade-A fans out there who make the whole experience that much better.

Wells,

Being a nice guy is not the only criteria. The criteria is likable. This was elaborated on… “We’re thinking of the funny, the uncommonly decent, the humane, the innovative, the joyous, and anyone else who cuts a striking pose on the positive side of the college game”. I dont know these guys (coaches) so I listed the reasons I liked Carroll. Any more questions? Are you trying to start an argument? This question seems very titpicky. Especially for a blog.

What about Rocket Ismael? Doesn’t everyone have to have sympathy for a mentally retarded minority broadcaster that couldn’t string together a fragment sentence unless it was telatyped in front of him, or is that just me? I kid, I kid.

I actually like Beamer, but I don’t know if that is because I am measmerized by Jenkins or not. You gotta respect a guy that can make a name for his team by blocking punts.

Lee Corso.

In a retarded uncle kinda way.

I’ve met Kirk Herbstreit (great guy) and Chris Fowler (bitter egomaniacal dick) on two occasions. Once at Durty Nelly’s in Gainesville and again at Mortons in Jax this past year. They must keep Corso packed away in mothballs on The Home Depot bus when they go out at night.

On both occasions I asked who they liked in the game. On both occasions, KH gave me his prediction and told me “good luck”. CF also held consistent on both encounters.

The first time, after letting him and KH grab a spot at the crowded bar, so they could order drinks, he responded that he “didn’t want to talk about work.” Are you kidding me?!?!? This guys has the greatest “job” in the world.

The second time he completely ignored me as he hopped into his Saturn Vue (I’m serious) and sped away. I should point out that he was kind enough to bark out to one of his lackies to “fuckin’ tip the valet guy,” before he got in. Truly, a class act.

charlie weis?

the man who constantly berates his players and coaches during games?

the man who swears like a sailor at anyone he crosses (especially refs)?

the man who made absolutely sure everyone and their brother knew about the Montana Mazurkiewicz story — a good deed, don’t get me wrong, but every decent human being of a coach does similar things all the time, and we don’t hear about those, do we?

and most recently, the man who called a former player who left the team to focus on his architecture studies a liar and a quitter?

Maybe I’m the only one, but i find the man’s smugness and arrogance to be absolutely repulsive.

as for people i do like:

Reggie Bush: classy guy, charismatic, and an blast to watch

Vince Young: ditto

Mack Brown: Again, pure class, friendly, and will never throw a player or coach under the bus

As someone mentioned above, Craig Krenzel: kid went 26-2 as a starter and won a national championship with nowhere near the physical gifts of any of the other past 10 (at least) NC quarterbacks. he did it with heart, desire, and intelligence. Plus, he’s prolly gonna save people’s lives when he’s done in the NFL.

Even as a Michigan guy, have to say Herbstreit is a class act.

One more thing… Even though I can’t stand ND, you have to give props to Brady Quinn.

A lesser man would’ve tracked down Mussberger after the Fiesta Bowl, grabbed the Schlitz Ice out of his hand and pounded him into a bloody pulp. Although the way Mussberger’s been looking the last few years, this may be an improvement.

It’s not often you’re on national TV, while the play-by-play guy insinuates that your sister’s getting drilled by an opposing team member. Oh yeah, it just so happens that it’s the same guy drilling you throughout the game. Talk about adding insult to injury.

If nothing else, he’s certainly a model of self control.

I saw Krenzel kill at least 3 people from heart attacks at a Bears game last year.

and most recently, the man who called a former player who left the team to focus on his architecture studies a liar and a quitter?

Got any information on that, I really have no idea what your talking about?

jj -

First, CW didn’t go around actively seeking media Outlets to let them know what he did and what a great guy he is. The boy’s family is the one contacted ESPN. Second, if you don’t think that every other coach in college doesn’t kick his players and coaches asses on the sidelines when they screw up or chews an official when he thinks they have made a bad call, I don’t know what game you’ve been watching these past years. And third, honoring Navy and going over to the visitors locker room don’t qualify as “class acts”? I guess I don’t understand what being a football coach and still be classy are all about.

I didn’t find Mack Brown all that likeable in Dec 2004 when he went around grovelling like a little bitch for sympathy & votes to get into the BCS. “Let me in because I’m a nice guy and I have failed (to get into the BCS) in recent years even though I have won alot”. I am not a UT hater but I can’t respect the way he acted like a 12 year old at the end of the 04 season, but I suppose I should reserve my irritation for the voters for fell for it and fucked Cal just as much as the man who begged them to do it.

I’m pretty sure that Jeff Tedford doesn’t like him too much.

Joe Paterno for the success of “The Grand Experiment” to prove that college football could be played at the highest level while graduating its players and not cheating. One of the libraries at Penn State is named after JoePa and he was instrumental in bringing instant replay to college football.

Keith Jackson is the voice of college football. I’m tempted to toss Brent Musburger in here too. You know it’s a big game when Brent opens the telecast by shouting, “You are looking live at…”

Phil Fulmer for his support of The Jason Foundation, which is dedicated to the awareness and prevention of youth suicide.

Finally, I gotta go with “Touchdown Jesus.”

Philly Gator gets comment of the day for the Brady Quinn thing.

How about Bobby Ross? Retired and presumably living the good life, he gives it up to come back to take on the insurmountable task of resurrecting a miserable Army program, just because they deserve better. He’s got my vote.

Sure, I think Joe Pa is peachy-keen – but I think the true “hero” of PSU coaching right now is Mike McQueary – Not only did he survive childhood/adolesence with such a surname, he did so with Hook ‘em Horns Burnt Orange hair. He’s progressed from a graduate assistant to recruiting coordinator (took over for JayPa) and Joe’s on-field soundboard. As has been often mentioned, Joe doesn’t wear a headset – McQueary is his headset. Mike is the one that Joe screams at whenever something goes wrong, or right, and he just stands there nodding “okay, Coach”.

Oh, and I also vote for Orson and Stranko.

I did not write this but I keep it around just for times when people bitch about the Texas Cal crap.

tzubear – ok, your right.

The rest of this is not my original work:
The Pac 10 commish, the Cal coach, and many others are harping on some of the voting patterns that may have tainted the BCS. Let’s talk about it. Let me take item by item some of the problems that have been discussed (and I will make adjustments accordingly).
- You complain about the 3 Texas based AP voters who switched and put Texas ahead of Cal. I’m gonna switch it back for ya. (typing). There you go!
- You complain about the Alabama jerk who suddenly realized Texas is not the #9 team, but he suddenly moved us up to #5. Bear in mind, he still had Texas behind you guys, but what the hay? Let’s take away those four points from Texas, shall we?
- You are offended (and you have a case) that some coaches put Texas #2 or #3. You are right. That is wrong. I’m taking it all away. I will take away those points from Texas, and because y’all are so damn confident that you unequivocally outrank Texas, I will reassign all these #2/#3 Texas coach votes to Texas as a #5 vote. (More typing). There we go! And I’m being so nice today, I’m gonna go ahead and leave the pro-Cal #3 vote that mysteriously appeared in the final coaches poll.
- You are offended that 6 coaches put you #7 or #8. Yes, that’s wrong, too. Forget the fact that 8 coaches had Texas #7 or #8, the media is not mentioning that fact at all, but whatever. What I will do for y’all… I will take all 6 Cal #7/#8 votes, and because y’all are so convinced you are the better team, I will magically turn those into #4 votes, ahead of Texas.
So where do we stand after all these very generous changes?

1. Texas 0.8442
2. Cal 0.8397
   0.0045
   That’s right. We eliminated a little more than half of the difference. So much for the razor thin margin. So much for the conspiracy taking away your Rose Bowl bid. Y’all need to get together, figure out another injustice, and let me know, so we can try to plug a way for you guys to win.
   OK. Now that I have mathematically shown (and given you all are very smart students at Berkeley, and you know based on what I said above, I’m right), let me give you all the reasons why you need to shut up already and just accept your damn Holiday Bowl bid.
   1. The “Conspiracy Effect” Doesn’t Add Up
   This is what was just proven above. In the end, it makes for a neat Trev Alberts, PTI, New York Times, Seattle Times story, but it didn’t really matter.
   2. You Outranked Us in Both Human Polls
   Al Gore wanted a recount, investigations, because he had LOST the human vote. You guys won it, damn it! Not only do you outrank us #4/#5 in the coach’s poll, but you have the added benefit of a wedge (Utah) to outrank us #4/#6 in the AP poll. WHAT MORE DO YOU WANT?? How can you allege fraud in the human polls, when in the end, they WENT IN YOUR FAVOR?
   Forget the fact that both teams have identical records, and a good case to make as both teams lost to undefeated national title contenders. It’s understandable that some voters will vote Cal #4/Texas #5, and vice versa. If you refuse to accept that premise, you are being naive. It is not a slam dunk case, that in every voter’s mind, that you are better than Texas. You know it and we know it. I will never argue that every voter should have Texas higher than Cal, and you should never argue the opposite. It’s a grey area.
   And in the end, the grey area was in your favor. You are unhappy, because it wasn’t overwhelmingly ENOUGH in your favor. Oh well.
   3. There’s a reason the computers liked Texas
   Cal’s cumulative opponents win/loss was 61-61, a perfect breakeven.
   Texas’ cumulative opponents win/loss was 67-56, 11 games over 0.500
   That’s right. The best way we can try to demote our schedule to your level, is to pull out the undefeated 12-0 record of our best opponent, Oklahoma. But given that you guys [censored] and [censored] and [censored] how close you came to beating your undefeated opponent, I don’t think we can accomodate you there.
   We beat 5 teams that had 7 or more victories. You defeated one. One. One team that won 7 or more games.
   4. Be fair about each of our losses.
   I am more than willing to grant you that you played USC better than we played OU. But don’t go saying that you practically beat USC (because you outgained them, and your wideout tripped on his route), while we got blown out by OU. The score of the OU game at halftime was Oklahoma 3, Texas 0. It was Oklahoma 6, Texas 0 up until 8 minutes in the 4th quarter. I realize that given you are Pac 10 fans, you must shiver when you see such a defensive struggle. But this was a very close game.
   Again, we did not do as well against our rival as you did against yours. You guys were close. But don’t go saying that we were blown out by OU.
   5. Be fair about each of our sloppy wins.
   Kansas. Boy, the media sure loves that game. We played sloppy in that one no doubt, but you guys know that as time was winding down, the Oregon WR dropped a wideopen, easy pass that puts them well within field goal range. So those are both near misses against sub-0.500 teams.
   Arkansas. Well, I was happy with that one, it was an electric environment. It was probably closer than it should have been. Honestly, I do think this is a wash with your Southern Miss game. On the road, close at the end (game was nearly tied 17-16 with a mere 6 minutes left). But in the end, the better team won.
   If you try to assert that any of our wins beyond KU and Arkansas were low quality or squeakers in nature, you are wrong (in my opinion). I attended and re-watched each of these games. Kansas and Arkansas made me sweat, but as the games concluded, none of the others were really in question, and they were all by reasonable victory margins. Yes, a comeback was needed against Okla State, but we won that game by 21 points.
   6. Quit harping on the Big 10/Pac 10 sanctity crap.
   For years, the Rose Bowl has been diligent in preserving tradition by always inviting the champion of the Big 10, to play the champion of the Pac 10.
   Three teams: Michigan, Cal, and Texas. Only one of them meets this tradition, and last time I checked, that team is going to the Rose Bowl. Tell me, again, how the tradition is being violated.
   7. Quit saying Mack Brown’s “whining” did the trick.
   While you and Utah were off, and after we defeated a ranked A&M team in a rivalry game, Mack Brown made public statements asking for voters to reconsider their votes. Some have portrayed this as “whining,” some may say he was politicking, but whatever you want to call it, it doesn’t matter. He was certainly making an appeal to voters.
   When the polls came out merely 2 days later (again bearing in mind that Texas beat a ranked team, Cal and Utah were off), here’s what happened: Cal GAINED 4 points relative to Texas in the human polls. Texas LOST ground after defeating a ranked team by 13pts, while Cal was off. If ANYTHING, the “whining” backfired. It clearly didn’t help.
   Here’s a thought…. maybe Cal lost ground in the human polls in the following week (a full 9 days after Mack’s “whining”) because of a subpar performance against a mediocre conference USA opponent. Because they were virtually tied with Southern Miss with only 6 minutes remaining in the game. Not because of Mack’s “whining.” And if you think it is wrong for Cal to be penalized on ballots because they didn’t look good against a mediocre opponent — welcome to college football. Teams have constantly been tweaked because of soft performances. Nebraska, in 1997, lost considerable votes (relative to Michigan) when it needed some luck to squeak by Mizzou. The precedent is ample, and reasonable. In fact, Texas according to many voters was being penalized for its performance against Kansas. What goes around, comes around.

I’m sure Touchdown Jesus is loved universally and unequivocally by the muslim, jewish, atheist and agnostic football fans national-wide.

Thanks for posting the desperately needed moron vote, Kevin.

PSUrob (comment #6): In the late 60s, JoePa was making about $30K a year at Penn State. He turned down a million a year as Head Coach of the New York Giants because of his feelings and his family’s feelings towards Penn State.

Not exactly. It was 1972 and the team was the New England Patriots. It wasn’t a million bucks a year, but it included an ownership stake in the team.

They can build there own touchdown moses, allah, darwin, etc… no one stopping them…

On calling out a player who left the team (TE Joey Hiben)
Weis did take it a little far. He was under the impression that after a meeting with Hiben and an academic advisor everything was ironed out and Hiben would still play, then days later he quit. Weis is taking a route to say it is possible to do architecture and play football but seemed to cross the line a little. It was in the South Bend Tribune a few days ago. Hiben later commented clarifying it was a decision he made and had nothing to do with the staff- kind of saying it is possible just too hard to do both.

Ben (Post #54): I’m sure Touchdown Jesus is loved universally and unequivocally by the muslim, jewish, atheist and agnostic football fans national-wide. Thanks for posting the desperately needed moron vote, Kevin.

I don’t see anything requiring a nominee to be “universally and unequivocally loved” in this definition: “We’re thinking of the funny, the uncommonly decent, the humane, the innovative, the joyous, and anyone else who cuts a striking pose on the positive side of the college game.”

As for Muslims, I trust you’re aware that Jesus is revered as a prophet (but not the Messiah) in the Islamic faith. Also, I’m sure you’re aware that one of Notre Dame’s all-time greats, Raghib “Rocket” Ismail, grew up in a Muslim home.

I am left with the impression that the foregoing is little more than an exercise in picking the lesser of the available evils. It is undoubtedly the nature of the game that there are very few, if any, prospective candidates who can make all the people happy all the time. I am repeatedly on record as being one who holds fillup foolmer is exceedingly low regard. Given my loyalties, this is not particularly surprising and I am certain that any comments I may make in that regard are fully considered in that context. I readily concede not everyone agrees foolmer is the devil incarnate.

All that to say, I think it is much easier to come up with the ten least likable people in college football than the ten most likable. I am not a big Ron Franklin fan but I gather many people are. It’s all subjective. I remember Keith Jackson when he was in his prime and am saddened by what he brings to a game now.

It is a sign of the times and a sad commentary that ten likable people are that hard to come by. I am embarrassed to say I can’t come up with five, much less ten. As I understand the rules, I can’t offer Mike Shula, though I do think he is “good people” as college football coaches go. I tend to think Richt is decent enough and again concede any reservations are attributable to competitive considerations.

Are you sure I can’t vote for Arrington’s nipples??

I have to also cast a “whoa nelly” NO vote for Mr. Keith Jackson. He is the absolute king of the the on-air jinx and incoherent tangental tidbit.

Desperate ticket scalpers 5 mins before kickoff.

Kevin,

Yes, I am aware of all those things. Were YOU aware that much of my post was sarcastic?

The point was simply that you’re nomination was self-serving.

On that note: I nominate myself.

Nebraska’s fans—in spite of their team’s past penchant for running up the score and pummeling ex-girlfriends—they’re polite and respectful yet still ear-scorchingly loud. They even applaud the opposing teams when they head to the locker room.

Ron Franklin gets another vote.

Any and all Kentucky coaches.

AD’s at directional schools that whore their teams for 6-figure paydays.

Finally, good/long-time college radio play-by-play announcers that are homers for their teams. When was the last time you listened to a game instead of watched it. Radio play-by-play is a lost art since most of us big-time programs can watch every game. While I hate his ‘hob-nail boot’ comment from 2001, Larry Munson and those like him bring to life the game and passion of their fans. John Ward, Voice of the Vols, was in the same category. The guy at Kentucky (in bball his phrase was “The Cats are running” or something like that). I’m sure all the SEC schools and other big time schools have similar.

Spurrier because he’s Spurrier.

socalirish: the link/info you requested regarding Charlie throwing Joey Hiben under the bus

“Just basically, this kid is saying he’s choosing architecture over football because he had to make a choice, and that’s not the case. He wanted to make that choice. He didn’t have to make that choice. There’s a big difference between the two.”

(Just for the record Architecture is probably the single most time-demanding major available at a major university. The amount of time architecture students spend in labs and on projects is ridiculous)

Most of the good things Charlie does he does when he knows they’ll be in full view of an audience (i.e. Montana M, The Navy game, etc.) Charlie was all too happy to do the interview with ESPN about Montana M. It seems very disingenuous to me.

Similarly, the man has very little tact when it comes to dealing with his coaches & players. Of course every coach yells at his players and coaches when they screw up. Some (Mack Brown, Jim Tressel, Joe Paterno, etc.) choose to do it with class, and with the team only. Charlie (among many others) chooses to do it on national television.

hmmmm, i don’t see the link, here is the URL for the article i mention above

http://www.southbendtribune.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060217/NDSports02/602170474/0/FRONTPAGE

Never thought about the homer play by play radio guys. That’s a great nomination. I hate it when a school hires a guy that doesn’t cheer for the team too. If I’m going to listen to a game, I want to hear a guy who gets just as excited as I do when we win a big one.

I’m going to go ahead and vote a second time for Ron Franklin.

I would say Weiss, even though I dispise Notre Dame. He’s just hard not to like.
I would also include Spurrier because he doesn’t apologize for running up the score and on the rare occasion that the score is run up on him he doesn’t whine about it.

good call on the radio announcers.

Used to listen to the radio play-by-play and turn off the tv audio – broadcast delay (thank you very much Mr. Timberlake) makes this impossible -

I listened to the PSU/Illinois game this year on the radio rather than watch it on TV – and – because I couldn’t take the announcers ANY longer during the Orange Bowl – listened to the Radio for the last half of the last over-time – Knew the kick was good but still watched the broadcast to confirm- relief and pandemonium ensued.

Here’s my only problem with nominating Weiss. He coaches for Notre Dame. It’s probably the biggest fan base in the nation, so on that hand, he has a ton of people who love him. However, Notre Dame is probably the most hated team in college football, therefore Weiss is hated by many people throughout the country simply for his association with ND.

For the record, I think he’ll do well at ND over the long run, but at this point, he hasn’t accomplished anymore than Willingham had at this point in his tenure, so don’t proclaim him a savior just yet.

jj -

didn’t paterno run down the field and grab an official, berating him the entire time on national tv? also, regarding “throwing under the bus”, from a recruiting standpoint, don’t you think it is important that any future recruits who may have an interest in architecture and football know that they can do both, and that if they choose to pursue one over the other, that that is their choice and not the school forcing them to make the choice. Unfortunately, like it or not, because ND is on national tv every week, any move he makes, classy or not, is going to be on national tv. So I don’t know how his visit to the locker room after a game or going over to sing Navy’s alma mater isn’t just as classy just because it happens to be on national tv.

Definitely Ron Franklin, calls every game with style and doesn’t try to over do it. Orson and Stranko a close second for sure. Shit list…Rod Gilmore’s stupid ass, and my guy Fulmer for helping even more people hate the Vols with a passion.

YES: Joe Pa, Pete Carroll (for the Haloween prank if nothing else), the Ogeron (for pure entertainment value), Keith Jackson (because I still appreciate him for his past glories), Bobby Ross.

MAYBE: Mack Brown, he’d be a yes for sure if not for the whining about the BCS regarding Texas and Cal.

NFW: Weiss, he’s a jerk who’ll have to deal with unhappy alumni after another 9-3 year (the schedule isn’t going to roll over and die every year), he should have been on the “hated” list.

OT:

Orson and Stranko -

Check out this god awful video for texas a&m.

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Calvin Johnson still has a smile on his face despite the fact that he has Chan Gailey as a head coach and Reggie Ball as his QB. That alone has to be worth something.

Likable things about CFB? Keith Jackson – he’s old and senile and rambles, but can you imagine not having him around? Gotta love him.

Love the Rose Bowl and the parade and everything that surrounds it.

Love Michigan, Notre Dame, and GT’s fight songs

Love that two places can both be named “Death Valley”

Love night games in the bayou, with a live tiger on the field

Love “College Gameday”, because in the midwest it means 9:30am is when the football day starts

Love the bands. All of them. Even the ones that suck.

Love USC cheerleaders in sweaters

Love Texas cheerleaders in chaps

Love cowbells, and the fact that there’s anything that could attract people to Starkville, MI

Love Ole Miss, the quad, the crystal and the redshirted miss americas

Love any sport where Rich Brooks can have a job

Love the fact that CFB is the one sport where the northeast really sucks, so the rest of the nation gets some coverage

Heck, I just love college football. All of it.

socalirish,

I agree. I can tell you that everyone from the Naval Academy community was impressed at what Weis did. He even blew off the sideline reporter to go do that. I don’t see how anyone could suggets that wasn’t real admiration, and to my knowledge it was the only non SA school which did that with Navy.

Pete Caroll shouldn’t be anywhere near the list if you talk to anyone from New England.

Jackson/Mussberger are two of the worst announcers out there. when they’re not completely incoherent they’re oblivious to what’s actually going on and are focused on stuff like the Brady Quinn’s sister thing.

Ben (comment #66): The point was simply that you’re nomination was self-serving.

Self-serving in what way? Click on my name to identify my favorite team. (Hint: It’s not Notre Dame.)

On that note: I nominate myself.

You were desperately searching for the moron vote and I daresay you’ve found it.

Brady Quinn. For no other reasons than his muscular arms and rippling torso.

Oh, and Officer Tim McCarthy, the only person capable of silencing a crowd of 80,000 in Notre Dame’s stadium.

Wells-

Well done by your friend. I don’t agree with everything on there, but it doesn’t matter – I tip my cap to you nonetheless. If only CFB blog threads contained more mostly objective posts like yours and less “We suck you rule” posts the world will be a better place.

Damn Nathan, I fell positively joyous and uplifted about spending each saturday in the fall watching football for 14 hours. You could win a congressional seat with that speach, in some parts of the country.

The Top 10 Nice guys in College Football:

1. Ron Franklin: The best announcer in football today, at any level.

2. The Notre Dame 3: AJ Hawk’s brother-in-law, The Shark, and Tommy Z aka “The Fastest White Man in America.” These 3 almost beat USC by themselves.

3. Tyrone Prothro: Made the catch of the decade against Southern Miss and then challenged Joe Theisman for worst on-field injury, ever.

4. Brian Stokes: Appalachian State’s wedgebuster on special teams, took one for the team in Iraq, serving two tours and receiving a Purple HEart.

5. The FSU Cowgirls: although not guys, the single reason why I would pay attention to FSU.

6. Steve Spurrier: Darth Visor came back to college football and picked up where he left off; outsmarting and outinsulting the opposition, at that was just at SEC media days.

7. Former football players Jason White of Stanford and Brian Polak of UCLA: These two have the nads to sue the NCAA. Never seen prostitutes sue a pimp before, but hey, it might work.

8. Phil Fulmer: Without him, we wouldn’t have the Fulmer Cup, and without that, we would have nothing to do in the offseason.

9. The guy at CBS who decided to put SEC football on every saturday, Enough Said.

10. Pat Hill, Fresno State Head Coach, this guy has the mustache and the swagger for a bigger school, and his “anywhere, anyone, anytime” mantra should be a prerequisite for every major college football coach.

Testify!

Thanks for all the suggestions…we’ll have our ten up tomorrow.

socalirish: I do indeed think it is important for recruits to understand that pursuing their degree of choice and playing football may not always be compatible, and that that may not be the coach’s or university’s fault.

I also think that when a player chooses his EDUCATION over football, it is important that a coach support his decision and move on. Not call the kid a liar and a quitter, like Charlie did. Do see the distinction? The first course of action is classy the second is not.

As for the Navy Game and Montana, I agree, those actions are classy, on their face. But when I see the way Charlie has continually exploited others, (i.e. floating NFL rumors to get a nice fat contract) and the generally crude and classless way he acts, I tend to think Charlie is simply taking opportunities to make himself look good.

Ron Franklin for calling Holly Rowe sweetheart. They must have cut his mic before he said “now get back in the kitchen” because you knew he was thinking it.

Kirk Herbstreit because he’s one of the few knowledgeable, objective ESPN employees.

Buzz for being the coolest. . . mascot. . . ever.

Gotta disagree with Steve being likeable. I don’t know anyone outside of UF and USC who likes that man.

its gotta be joepa

jj -

No where in the article does CW say that he does not support Hiben’s decision or call Hiben a liar. All CW does is clarify that the decision was Hiben’s choice and not the school forcing him to choose. Also, it was a website that started the rumor of Weis to the NFL just because he had had a good start at ND and because the buyout clause of his first contract was so low. I agree that he can be brash and blunt, but I also think it is quite refreshing for someone to finally say what they think rather than sugar coating everything.

- mike tirico
- trev alberts (now that he’s gone)
- urban meyer

The muslim blow-up doll Tuberville humps when he misses his 3:00 pm dose of lithium.

Bill Curry. Maybe not the best HBC in the world, but a true gentleman nonetheless.

This is repulsive. Why don’t y’all start talking about kittens, dewey meadows and sunsets. Ugh! What’s the matter with you people? Have your wives(some of you sound like you have “significant others”)taken over your lives?

To the couple guys posting about Architecture Majors. Auburn to my knowledge has only ever had like 1 Architecture major on their football team in the ‘modern’ era. Way too many time committments.

What about Mark “Mangina” Mangino. How can you not like a human choad?

And let’s not forget Bob Griese. I don’t even know if he’s doing games anymore, but three seasons ago he covered Brady Quinn’s first start against Purdue and spent the entire game talking about how ripped Brady’s “guns” were. Seriously, I don’t think he said anything the entire game that didn’t pertain to his man crush. It was the most homoerotic four hours in television history, and we owe him for that.

“Most of the good things Charlie does he does when he knows they’ll be in full view of an audience.” Which you know because you spy on him and know he’s a bastard in private, and only saintly when he’s on camera?

jj, I have you pegged as a…. Boston College fan.

Yeah, he’s dead, but I’m still throwing Eddie Robinson’s name into the ring. He literally built Grambling from nothing into a black college powerhouse, doing everything including field maintanence in his early days. His guys, many of whom were the first in their families to go to college, played hard, played fair and they graduated. He won more than 300 games without becoming an old crank (Paterno) or a sanctimonious gasbag (Bowden).

GB: nope, guess again

socalirish:

“Just basically, this kid is saying he’s choosing architecture over football because he had to make a choice, and that’s not the case. He wanted to make that choice. He didn’t have to make that choice. There’s a big difference between the two.”

are you saying this is different from calling the kid a liar? Even if you think it is, a classy coach would’ve let it go instead of call the kid out in the media.

I second Bill Curry. Doesn’t bring the excitement as many others, but good quality football analysis and teaching.

The Texas Pom Squad. Just cuz.

Now that is something I def like about CFB. Got to hand it to you bitterhorn, while the rest of us write about what we like…

(a) Ron Franklin,

(b) Archie Griffin, and

© Ara Parsegian -seeing him attending ND intrahall games (they play in full pads and helmets) epitomized dedication to an institution.

jj-

Ask Ricky Watters how nice of a guy Joe Pa is. It took Watters three hours to get Joe Pa to leave his house after Watters had asked him.

Just because Joe Pa is old, goofy, and has Big friggen glasses doesn’t mean he’s as nice as your grandpa.

Charlie Weis
Kirk Herbstreet
Spurrier
Reggie Bush
The FSU Cowgirls (Jenn Sterger and Fabiola)

Wrap them into one and its a College Football bundle of fun

JJ,

Do you honestly think Weis needed to float his own NFL rumors to get an extension? Did you see how many stiffs
got NFL head coaching gigs at the end of this year? Do
you really think he wouldn’t have been a better NFL hire
than about half of those who did get new jobs?

Without that extension, rumors would have been rampant
that he was leaving every single year.

JTG

Broadcasters: Ron Franklin, the SEC JP guys (the three Daves – they’re always pumped for the game without being homers, and it makes watching a regional broadcast bearable), Ole Miss play-by-play man David Kellum. Herbstreit is the only reason to watch Gameday these days, and he saves it by himself. Dave Revsine on the ESPN Radio Gameday—-I can do without Kiper though, who I think makes up half the things he says on the spot.

Coaches: tough call, though I do agree with the Spurrier nod. Duke’s Ted Roof seems like a nice guy (probably too nice; I’d have marched over to Coach K’s office and demand that Paulus be allowed to play football too). Never heard a bad thing about Tommy West at Memphis. And Bobby Johnson at Vandy—if anyone deserved a bowl last year, those guys did.

That’s all I got.

I believe Eddie Robinson is still alive.

My top 10 list (this is all-time):

1. Joe Paterno—-Come on, he’s 79! And, he has more enthusiasm than most 30 year olds…

2. George Teague—-My three favorite memories as a kid…his pick-6 and strip of Lamar Thomas against Miami in the ’93 Sugar Bowl, and his hit on TO after he went back to the star at Texas Stadium for the second time.

3. Tyrone Prothro—-I was AT the Alabama-USM game when he made the catch of a lifetime. I saw him destroy Florida’s defense and I saw him have the worst injury I’ve ever seen. I also remember watching him as a junior at Cleburne County High during the 2001 4A Alabama State Championship Game on TV and thinking, “Man, he’s something…if only some school would take a chance on him.”

4. Gene Stallings—-His work with Down Syndrome kids by itself puts him on this list.

5. The Orgeron—-C’mon, without him, who else would you have wanting to take on a whole team by himself?

6. Chucky Mullins—-From my hometown of Russellville, AL, he represented everything that America stood for: a poor kid who was orphaned at age 12 who used sports as a way to get an education and try to better himself. His injury in 1989 didn’t deter him from trying to get his degree and make something of himself. He was taken away from us MUCH too soon.

7. Larry Munson—-On a much lighter note, this guy is probably my favorite SEC announcer. How can you not love “We just broke their nose with a hobnailed boot! We broke their nose, we CRUSHED THEIR FACE!!!!” and “I see Sugar falling from the sky” in reference to a win over Auburn in 1982 that clinched a Sugar Bowl bid for Herschel and the gang

8. Ron Franklin—-Easily the best college announcer today. I’m still bitter they paired him with Bob Davie this past season.

9. Calvin Johnson—-Seems to be a nice guy, and the fact that he actually chose a tougher academic school gives me much more respect for the guy. Wish he had someone other than Reggie Ball throwing to him, or someone other than Chan Gailey as a head coach.

10. Vince Young—-Single-handedly destroyed the second greatest team of all-time (according to ESPN). For that, and that alone, he makes this list (no offense to USC. This is aimed at ESPN).

Please don’t include Weiss or Paterno. As someone mentioned, Weiss should be ineligible for coaching at ND. Paterno should be ineligible for his treatment of the refs, among other things.

There’s a reason very few fans of other schools mentioned either of them.

Likes:
Ron Franklin
Hail to the Victors
Mid-week WAC shootouts
Death Valley (the real one, not the Pickens County knockoff)
Blue Turf
Weagle Weagle
Spurrier

I don’t know how anyone can begrudge Keith Jackson like that.

Respect to the man.

Mmm…texas girls in chaps. I second that nomination.

And as much as everyone wants to debate Weis, it’s amazing to me that some people still can’t figure out how to spell his name. It’s one “s”, people. I like him, I’m biased—but I think he went over the top with the Hiben architecture thing. He’s human—sue him.

Tom Osborne is so nice that his old arch-nemesis, Barry Switzer, is campaigning for him for governor of Nebraska.

Link

It’s a tie between Herbie and The Ohio State University Marching Band.

Tom Osborne?!? R U kidding? The guy that let that thug Lawrence Phillips play in NC game after raping/throwing woman down the steps? The one those dirty roiding brothers played for – one cut a guy’s face with a broken glass/bottle in a bar fight? Have to disagree on that one. Totally homer but SOS has my vote…

I nominate every cheerleader that puts out! Way to go girls!!!

i second (or maybe third) the bobby johnson vote. i was at furman when he was our coach, and he is just a really great guy. and a great coach. he got furman to the national championship game, despite having to play against teams that didn’t have half the academic standards.

Colin, Keith Jackson may have been one of the all-time great voices of college football, but even before his senile dementia and confusion became painfully obvious, he was openly biased against Notre Dame. If he was hatin’ on your peoples like that, you’d hold a grudge, too.

Chg, Hail to the Victors is teh suxorz, even when it’s being played in OUTER-FUCKING-SPACE…

He’s no longer in CFB, but Erk Russell is what a coach should be. He looks like Mr. Clean, and when he was the UGA defensive coach, he would butt heads with the players, and he didn’t even wear a helmet! Later at Georgia Southern, started up that program and won a couple of 1-AA championships.

I hate SOS. I like SOS. Ask me again after we play SC this fall.

I hate ND, but Touchdown Jesus is a good part of college football. (Not in a religious way, I just like saying “Touchdown Jesus”, especially to the religious fanatics that aren’t football fans.)

Home team announcers are the best! Of course, I like Munson (“Man, is there going to be some property destroyed tonight!”), but each school should have a total homer for an announcer.

Vince Young was fun to watch.

Mark Richt does seem like the nice guy that will go with you to drink one beer, even though he really doesn’t drink.

Keith Jackson is STILL better than Puss-berger, though he is getting a little slow. Herbstreit is a good announcer, and I’ll bet he’s a PGMF.

EDSBS is a large part of what’s fun with CFB. I luv you guys .

Mike Leach – EDSBS has got to love this guy. He is drunk all the time. Don’t believe me watch him any time he is ever on TV. I hear he has two guys hired to follow him around and keep him out of trouble. What a Texas Tech thing to do, instead of fix the drinking problem, we’ll just have two guys go around helping him not get in fights.

Plus,he loves pirates, swords, and throwing as many times as possible

“So Mike, you are down 14 at half time and the score is 56-42 what do you think the game plan for the second half should be,”….with out thinking Mike says, “We need to score more.”

Ha…this guy is too much

Mike Leach. How can you not like a guy who has a playbook that consists of nothing but numerous variations of “Go deep”?

How about the guys at EA for putting out such a solid college game? Not only recruiting and player management fun, but it’s insanely fun. Pull a Fulmer and let a guy figting in the club sit out for a quarter.

Not only is Eddie Robinson still alive, he’s actually won 408 games, making him the winningest coach in college football (suck it, Bryant). He took the job at Grambling when it was known as Louisiana Negro Normal and Industrial Institute, and he coached the drill team during halftime (let’s see Paterno do that). And he’s been married to his high school sweetheart for more than 60 years. Who can dislike Coach Rob?

Actually, Michigan invented Script Ohio, even down to the dotting of the i. (what, you thought Ohio State kids could write? We also helped start Notre Dame’s football program, way back when.

Wait, I think I just made the argument to put the entire program on the most-hated list. Anyway, on to my nomination.

Let me say something nice about Aaron Taylor. He’s my favorite college football-related cartoon character. Even after the worst crushing, soul-sucking loss to Notre Dame I can laugh when I see him on camera. I couldn’t tell you any specific insights he might have, but I always am happy watching him talk and move his eybrows. It’s oddly fascinating, kind of like claymation.

I also love how he holds the mike (in a death grip) right next to the corner of his mouth where the talking comes out. I love how he could randomly say anything to bring the on-set conversation to a screeching halt at any time. Also, he looks like King Hippo, and anything that makes you think of Mike Tyson’s Punch-Out can’t be bad at all, can it?

fuck bobby johnson

You guys nominating Sly Croom are clueless. Gracious? I couldn’t think of a less accurate word to describe him.