Having had no real accomplishments on the field in our lifetime, Texas AM is forced to relish in their admittedly bad ass 12th man traditions. To protect all that is holy and dear to the Aggies, the University has gone all Pat Riley on the the Seattle Seahawks’ collective asses by filing suit seeking to enjoin them from promoting the term 12th Man in reference to their frontrunning fanbase that suddenly has caught football fever.
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Ryno says:
Frontrunning Fanbase is hardly a term reserved for Seahawk Fans. Seattle has always been a great sports towns with tons of fans flocking to Seahawks, Mariners and Supersonic games. We just never get to hear about it because *ahem* “OMG, THE PATRIOTS ARE WICKED PISSAH!”
January 31st, 2006 at 1:14 pm
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bitterhorn says:
Oy. Is there any way the SEC would be interested in taking the ags off our hands? ‘Differently Abled’ siblings can be so damned irritating.
January 31st, 2006 at 1:26 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
We’ve already got an Arkansas. We don’t need two.
January 31st, 2006 at 1:27 pm
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PSUgirl says:
It is amazing – the trademark wars. Why do you think (up until 2 years ago) all of the PSU (licensed) paw prints had 5 toes? Nittany Lions are a Hemingway-esque mutation? No, Clemson actually owned the 4 toed paw.
January 31st, 2006 at 1:44 pm
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Doug says:
Just when you thought it couldn’t be any easier to snicker at TAMU. If I were them, my primary focus wouldn’t be protection of the “12th man” tradition — judging by the play of their defense the last few seasons, they don’t even consistently field the first 11.
January 31st, 2006 at 1:45 pm
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bill says:
A trademark is “distinctive symbols, pictures, or words”. Only the Aggies would think the basic math used to come up with 12 (11+1 for any Aggies reading) would be somehow distinctive.
January 31st, 2006 at 1:50 pm
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bitterhorn says:
re: 11+1 for any Aggies…
Alternatively, ‘both hands and the big toes’ and ‘all of your teeth’ are also acceptable.
January 31st, 2006 at 1:53 pm
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LSUFan says:
The best story I have heard is when A&M enlarged Kyle Field by closing in their horse-shoe. Unfortunately, they have a dead mascot graveyard that is situated just so that all of their dead dogs are buried facing Kyle Field’s scoreboard. This created a problem when the new bleachers blocked the dead dogs’ view of said scoreboard. So, in the genius that is TAMU, they hung a new scoreboard for the dead dogs.
You would think that PETA would be all over that after OU hung 70 on them in ‘04. It’s bad enough that the heifers in the stands have to sit through it, but do they have to taunt a bunch of dead dogs with that brand of football as well??? It’s just sick!
January 31st, 2006 at 2:31 pm
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Chris M says:
Seattle was a football town in the 70’s and 80’s. A bad NFL owner, Ken Behring from California did all he could to screw that up. Rick Neuhisel did a good job of turning Washington into a college basketball town too.
January 31st, 2006 at 3:39 pm
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BamaTaxMan says:
Since we’re talking about the Ags here, shouldn’t they have trademarked “The 12th Sheep”?
January 31st, 2006 at 3:49 pm
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Jonathan says:
We’ve already got an Arkansas. We don’t need two.
Classic, I love it
January 31st, 2006 at 4:19 pm
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Newspaper Hack says:
Since I used to live in that part of Texas, I can say sheep are hard to find. But a friendly cow is usually only a short walk from the house.
January 31st, 2006 at 4:24 pm
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Steve in Houston says:
I’m grateful for this situation, because it gives the nation a glimpse of what we have to deal with all the time.
January 31st, 2006 at 6:36 pm
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The Stos says:
It is ridiculous to think that something like “The 12th Man” can be trade marked. I mean if Hometown U starts calling its basketball fans “the 6th man,” will the NBA have to change the name of the 6th man award. Quite absurd.
Really the Aggies have become a joke of late. UT beats them 40-29 and its like a victory to them. Fran is a bust. They made shirts with the horns bandaged back on the UT logo (they have a deal about saying how they saw the horns off…also lame, and they even went against themselves for the bandage deal).
One thing sums it up best for me though. When Vince Young was a redshirt Freshman and Reggie McNeal was not redshirted, and played a little….an aggie once told me how much better Reggie was going to be in college than Vince…I’m still laughing.
January 31st, 2006 at 7:58 pm
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Moose Bigelow says:
You think its bad now, just wait til the Seahawks start having sex with sheep and building bonfires.
February 1st, 2006 at 11:41 am
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Chris says:
Regarding the scoreboard for the dead dogs: I’ve never understood how these ghost dogs can see through 6 feet of dirt but not through some bleachers.
February 1st, 2006 at 12:54 pm
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LSUFan says:
Careful Chris… I have had the same question, but feared bringing it up. If they realize that issue they are bound to create a tradition where they dig up the dead dogs and prop them in front of the scoreboard for each game. Who know where this will end???
February 1st, 2006 at 1:32 pm
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SmoothJimmyApollo says:
A real Longhorns fan would excavate those bones and make a soup to serve to tailgaters before the Tejas ATM game. “Dig up his bones! Prove my daughter wrong!!”
This said, however, we Georgia fans must now post an armed guard at the former Uga gravesites. I have undoubtedly given all manner of perverteds and unhingeds something to do some lazy Sunday evening.
February 1st, 2006 at 7:12 pm
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bitterhorn says:
SmoothJimmy, your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. However your excavation plan would entail a trip to College Station (imagine the set of Hee Haw w/o the charm) more often than every other year. Besides, there are no bad mascots, just corp turds that are into, ummm, ‘animal husbandry’ let’s just say. Those poor little shelties have been abused enough, no need to add to their suffering.
February 1st, 2006 at 7:47 pm
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Steve in Houston says:
You guys know about the “Don’t walk on the grass rule”, right?
February 1st, 2006 at 9:45 pm
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Cody says:
These comments are so full of ignorance that I just had to reply.
To start, Steve let me briefly explain the “Don’t walk on the grass rule.” We have a building at A&M named the MSC, Memorial Student Center. This is a building that is dedicated to all Texas A&M students that have passed away, and out of respect people are asked to not walk on the grass. We also take off our hats while in the building, similar to what you do at funerals. I’m sorry if you do not like or respect this, but we do.
LSUfan-
Our original mascot, Reveille the dog, was known to love the football games and the band. When she died in 1944, she was buried at the head of Kyle field so she could watch the scoreboard and hear the band during all of the games. This tradition has been followed all the way to the latest Reveille VI. This is somewhat similar to when your parents die or any married couple dies and they are buried next to each other so they can spend eternity together. I guess you think this is stupid as well. Also, as our crowds grew so did our stadium. Instead of digging up the dogs, we decided to give them their own personal scoreboard. Personally, I think it’s thoughtful.
And yah, we were dominated 70-0 by OU. I guess you forgot about a year earlier when A&M(an unranked team) unseated the #1 team in the nation… OU. I would be pissed of with a vengeance too, and I am surprised that powerhouse offense didn’t score 100.
The Stos-
The “bandaged horns” was representing our friendly rivalry and that most of us were pulling for our fellow Texas team in the championship game.
My view of the 12th man issue-
When I first heard about it, I believed that it was a petty argument. “The 12th Man” at A&M is arguably our biggest tradition, and has been actively followed since 1922. The Seahawks, according to the article above, first used the 12th man in the mid-80’s and “…its playoff run has rekindled the “12th Man” symbol…” To me this means that it has only recently been used again by the Seahawks. I personally don’t care if you call your fans the 12th man, but look at it from this perspective. As I said before, The 12th Man is a huge part of A&M along with other long traditions that have spawned from it. If we do not protect this trademark then in a few years the Seahawks can claim it and legally stop us from using it. To us, The 12th Man is a whole lot more that just words (I guess that is hard for you to understand) and loosing it would be like loosing a huge part of our university. I can guarantee it does not have near that kind of meaning to the Seahawks till just recently. And I bet it still wouldn’t have as much meaning if the media had not of pumped such a big dispute into it. This issue has come up a couple times in the past with other NFL teams, and had been peacefully settled outside of the courtroom. The media has made us look bad, so please jump off their bandwagon and look a little harder.
February 7th, 2006 at 2:19 am
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The Stos says:
Uhhmmm Yeah…Cody…I’m just going to have to add one more thing.
The view I posted about the bandaged horns first came to my attention by a friend on mine, who is an Aggie. I have several of those, including my sister. I like College Station. I like the tradition of cheering and standing the entire time at the games (side note: personally I like the tradition of winning more, but I can appreciate good fans).
The thing that gets me, and every Aggie I have talked to is that you would never see a UT fan wearing anything closely resembling support of an Aggie (outside of the Bonfire tragedy which everyone I know of treated with the utmost respect). We love you guys, like a kid brother, who is slightly uglier, not as cool, and not as good at sports. We understand that vicarious living is part of being a little brother. I just know I’d be irrate if (and it’s a big if) aTm made it to the national championship and I saw an ornage shirt with Old Srg.’s thumb sown back on.
-The Stos
February 7th, 2006 at 5:53 pm
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Cody says:
I pull for all big 12 teams in bowl games. I guess that is just one more differece between here and there.
“We love you guys, like a kid brother, who is slightly uglier, not as cool, and not as good at sports.” Thats funny because we feel the same way about ya’ll except for the sports part. I cannot defend that part in this decade, at least in football, basketball, and baseball anyways.
February 8th, 2006 at 2:23 am