GET YOUR BITCH ON: TUBERVILLE EDITION
Tommy Tuberville sends ESPN a fish in newspaper at a Montgomery Quarterback’s Club luncheon, getting his bitch on in Olympian fashion with some choice quotes:
“ESPN has gotten so much power lately, it’s kinda scary,” Tuberville said. “And most of their analysts are coaches who haven’t won any games. That’s why they’re there. I think you know who I’m talking about.”
“And Lou Holtz gets on there and talks about what a team has to do win that game, and the guy couldn’t beat anybody in our conference. These guys will come talk to you and look you straight in the eye and tell you something, then they’ll get on the air and say something else.
“ESPN, I’ll tell you, I don’t have much to do with them anymore.”
We may have a new member of the EDSBS Shock and Balls circle here.
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LD says:
CFR linked to this this morning too. He takes a slightly different approach, however.
October 25th, 2005 at 3:11 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
If it had been Pete Carroll, he would have written thirteen paragraphs lauding him for his courage.
October 25th, 2005 at 3:26 pm
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Bill says:
Tommy lost credibility when he referred to Corso as an analyst. He didn’t say Corso’s name, but that’s who he is talking about.
No sane person thinks Lee Corso is an analyst of any sort. He’s comic relief. He’s a goofy sideshow.
October 25th, 2005 at 3:36 pm
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Orson Swindle says:
How can anyone go negative on Tuberville? He fried fish for a living at one point…as an adult. His name is in the Auburn phone book. He once called a fake punt in the shadows of his own goalposts on the road. He gets pissed in public and names names. If only he had a drinking problem, we’d have to love him.
October 25th, 2005 at 3:40 pm
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ryan says:
Not a big fan of Tuberville- don’t like what he did to Ole Miss- and besides he let his players smoke cigars on the field at Tiger Stadium in 2001. But I applaud him for speaking his mind in this case. And everyone knows that Corso doesn’t have a clue.
October 25th, 2005 at 3:44 pm
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Mike says:
Kinda glad to see that someone other than Vol fans takes ESPN a little skeptically. They are powerful and I love their Saturday night broadcasts – best in the business if you ask me but some of that has to do with frequent big-time SEC clashes in packed, rowdy stadiums. But they do get a little too “talking heady” and frankly influence a lot of observers with their hyping of a program or dissing of a program.
IMO – too many midwestern/Big 10 legacy guys. Where are the southern men and even the west coast guys for that matter. Corso – Big 10, Herbstreit – Big 10, May – who cares, Holtz – midwest, Michigan Heisman guy – name can’t remember, etc. For that matter it’s in the ABC and CBS booth too – Griese – Purdue, Blackledge- Penn State, etc.
October 25th, 2005 at 3:51 pm
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nixforsix says:
I agree with Tuberville’s thoughts, and love the mentality he’s taking.
But he’s not helping his program at all. I know he’s happy trying to recruit from a religous angle but it wouldn’t hurt if some recruits heard Auburn get mentioned positively on ESPN. Auburn didn’t need any help getting ignored by the state or national media (not counting bad publicity).
October 25th, 2005 at 4:02 pm
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Todd says:
Tubby wouldn’t have said anything so bombastic if he had won saturday. The guy lashes out at anyone and anything he can to draw attention away from his own failures. And besides, should someone with a golfer’s digest champions ring really criticize someone with a real one?
October 25th, 2005 at 4:07 pm
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Heff says:
Um Tommy, if you compare your time at Ol’ Miss to Lou’s at USC, he had more SEC wins and a better SEC winning percentage.
Oh, and he’s the 8th winningest coach in Div. I history. So shut the f up about Holtz and stick to recruiting stud kickers.
October 25th, 2005 at 4:21 pm
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Brian says:
IMO – too many midwestern/Big 10 legacy guys. Where are the southern men and even the west coast guys for that matter. Corso – Big 10, Herbstreit – Big 10, May – who cares, Holtz – midwest, Michigan Heisman guy – name can’t remember, etc.
I think ABC/ESPN learned its lesson with yappy southerners during the Great Failed Bowden experiment. Y’all shouldn’t have lost the Civil War.
And the Michigan Heisman guy is
Peyton ManningDesmond Howard.October 25th, 2005 at 4:29 pm
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Jeff says:
Why is Tuberville wasting his time talking about this? Most coaches ignore the prognositcators.
Last time I looked, Lou Holtz won a national championship, is eighth all time in wins (249), and had 22 bowl appearances.
Tuberville: 76-44. No national title as far as I can see.
His comments are pretty ridiculous.
October 25th, 2005 at 5:35 pm
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Newspaper Hack says:
Tubby’s just mad ’cause he went from OMG NO. 1 PEOPLES’ NATIONAL CHAMP WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO to third in the SEC West. That’ll happen when you lose your two best running backs since Bo the Jackson.
it wouldn’t hurt if some recruits heard Auburn get mentioned positively on ESPN
I seem to remember some total ass-kissing on GameDay Saturday. Made me ill. Had to change the channel. Then they lose to LSU. You’ve got to back up the love with a win.
And I agree — ESPN/ABC has a major Midwest bias. If you cut out the Notre Dame/Big Ten talk, you’d only have 30-40 percent of CFB coverage left.
October 25th, 2005 at 5:43 pm
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Ken says:
I agree with the general point of the bomb he dropped, but to single out Lou? Lou who has won a National Championship? Lou who has an insanely good lifetime winning percentage? Lou who is a bowl machine? You might want to listen when he opens his mouth. He is not a loud man or an animated man, but he is smarter than 8 Tuberviles put together.
Not even looking at the turnaround job at ND, look at what he did in old age to South Carolina
1-10
to
8-4 and 9-3 respectively, and two Outback Bowl WINS.
October 25th, 2005 at 5:45 pm
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Brian says:
Right, but a lot of coaches could do that if they decided to ignore NCAA rules.
October 25th, 2005 at 5:46 pm
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Bruce Ciskie says:
Holtz is no saint, but his numbers are better than Tuberville, and I seem to remember him (TT) screwing Ole Miss rather royally (though he showed a TON of class publicly while Auburn and Bobby Petrino were conspiring to screw him a couple years ago).
I’m not sure I agree with his decision to lash out at ESPN. These people are paid to give their opinions on TV and be somewhat controversial. If you don’t get people talking and reacting to what you are saying, you’re rather useless in that position. As Tim McCarver proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, being informed and providing useful analysis are not requirements to work in sports TV.
That said, Lou looks like an idiot half the time, I can’t stand Bob Davie (though Ron Franklin is AWESOME). And Chris Spielman isn’t very good. The ABC analysts (Griese and Danielson) are much better.
October 25th, 2005 at 6:23 pm
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Bill says:
There’s Brian, right on cue.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:04 pm
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VOLPIMP says:
Damn, Brian, I don’t recall Desmond beating out Manning for the Heisman, if that’s indeed what your reference was.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:08 pm
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LD says:
Let’s look at the numbers…
All time winning percentage:
Holtz: .651
Tuberville: .633
SEC records:
Holtz: 19-29 (.396)
Tuberville: 45-39 (.536)
If you look at the all time records, Holtz isn’t that much better. If you look at the SEC records, Tuberville doesn’t look like all that much of a hypocrite (and really, he only knocked Holtz on winning in the SEC).
October 25th, 2005 at 7:52 pm
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LD says:
It was Woodson plus the weight of ABC/ESPN that beat Manning.
FTR, I can’t stand Manning, but he deserved it that year. Woodson is a poor man’s Champ Bailey.
October 25th, 2005 at 7:53 pm
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Nathan says:
Holtz is a worthless douchebag cheating old backstabber who nobody except die-hard domers likes. Not even USC-Least fans like him.
He’s Cheatypants McSweatervest in 20 years with a sickly farcical “I’m a nice senile old man” thing going on.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:37 pm
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FATDUCK says:
For Tommy to knock Holtz’s winning percentage at South Carolina, I have to think the man has lost his mind. South Carolina was the current Kentucky in the SEC when he got there. They were terrible. He made them competitive, and beat OSU in the Outback Bowl in consecutive years. His team did seem to lose some of their momentum after that. That SC team was and still isn’t stocked with All Americans either. Spurrier hasn’t had immediate results there either.
October 25th, 2005 at 8:38 pm
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Baboso says:
God, Orson, you bitterman. Of course CFR would come all over himself if PC had said that, but that’s the difference between the two. PC was in the same situation in 2003, refused to get angry or point fingers, was lauded nationally for his class & decorum, and won a share of the National Championship. TT just looks like a fool. Besides, Granny won a MNC, what has TT won? Squat.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:07 pm
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LD says:
He did win an SEC title. Something Holtz never did…
Oh, and Holtz and Tuberville both have the same number of unbeaten seasons. It took Holtz 19 years, Tuberville 10.
But really, why is everyone feeling the need to defend Lou Holtz? The real debatable issue in Tuberville’s comments is the ESPN hegemony.
October 25th, 2005 at 10:46 pm
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Good ole' Mag says:
Ewe doggie, it’s Auburn Sheep time.
Where’s Tony Basilio? Maybe you can call in and sheep for him sometime.
October 26th, 2005 at 1:58 am
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Orson Swindle says:
Bitterman? Sounds like an attorney.
October 26th, 2005 at 7:47 am
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Brian says:
It was Woodson plus the weight of ABC/ESPN that beat Manning.
FTR, I can’t stand Manning, but he deserved it that year. Woodson is a poor man’s Champ Bailey.
Now you got my dander up. Woodson’s been injured for the pros but unless Champ Bailey stepped in and was All Pro from day one, there’s no comparison, and don’t blame ABC/ESPN for never beating Florida. Woodson singlehandedly beat Ohio State and sent his team to the national championship game as a corner.
October 26th, 2005 at 10:45 am
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Mike says:
Desmond Howard – that’s the name. I just drew a blank on that one. Poor man’s Champ Bailey – good one!
And Bowden IS/WAS horrible – what a whiney/squeeky pitiful example of a coach (and maybe even to some degree a person -see secretary).
But surely there’s some other southerners that could do a good job.
Did we lose the War of Northern Aggression? My grandmother always says it’s just halftime. We’ll go halfway around the world to free an unfriendly people from tyranny(sp) but force American’s to live under the tyranny spewing out of Washington D.C. everyday. (I don’t mean Bush specifically, but the every growing, every dominating federal government run by aristocrats beholden to anyone with a checkbook except the American taxpayer.)
October 26th, 2005 at 10:47 am
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LD says:
I think Champ and Woodson were most definitely comparable on the field, and that Champ played more downs both ways and was much more important to his team (which was in a rebuilding mode) than Woodson.
That said, I don’t think Champ Bailey should’ve won the Heisman. Just like I think Woodson shouldn’t have. And if you think ESPN/ABC didn’t have something to do with it, you’re nuts. There’s a reason UT fans hate ESPN – and it’s directly traceable to that year. They fluffed Woodson so much he got meatswell.
October 26th, 2005 at 11:05 am
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Tom says:
And here I thought Stanley Jackson single-handedly beat Ohio State in 1997.
October 26th, 2005 at 2:34 pm
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jamey baxter says:
The real beef is this:
Had Auburn gone undefeated again this year, they still don’t get to play in the NC game. Too many of the voters never get to see all the teams play, and they set the teams up based on what they hear in the national media, thus the ESPN comment. Basically, they would have to have beaten ranked LSU, UGAx2, and Bama, which is what they were told they had to do last season to play for the title.
Why is this? Because hte media talked about how “down” Auburn was going to be without the drafted playerd from last season. They could never have made up the ground that they have to to make it to the NC game. It is VERY possible that the Sugar Bowl feature an undefeated VT vs. undefeated Bama/UGA. No way the winner of that games leapfrogs to be crowned NC.
Also, if you listen to most of the commentators, they keep talking about USC’s last 3 years, not really talking about THIS year. You would also think that Reggie Bush was able to walk on water, and that Leinart, Bush, White and Jerrett alone could beat every team in the country.
There is going to be another snub of a team that was deserving, and it would be really funny as heck if USC got snubbed. However, my money is on VT getting left out in the cold.
October 28th, 2005 at 12:21 pm