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BOWDEN QUOTES PLATO

Bobby Bowden, who may be old enough to have padded around the agora with Socrates and Plato, certainly sounds like he's channeling them these days. To wit:

''I can sure tell a difference,'' Bowden said in response to a question during the Atlantic Coast Conference coaches' weekly teleconference.

''You're dealing with children who are brought up different than they were when I started coaching,'' the 75-year-old coach said. ''Kids continually get more liberal ... maybe not as disciplined as they once were.''

Because that's what 18-year old pampered athletes are known for: discipline. The original source quote from Plato, the father of philosophy and a mean spinning fullback in his day:

"I mean such things as these: — when the young are to
be silent before their elders; how they are to show respect to them by
standing and making them sit; what honour is due to parents; what
garments or shoes are to be worn; the mode of dressing the hair;
deportment and manners in general. You would agree with me? — Yes."

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The parallels between the great philosopher and the great football coach are legion. Of course, the most striking difference between Bowden and Socrates is that Socrates actually refused to have sex with his proteges. And I hear Alcibiades was hung like Kameron Wimberley.

by Shane MacGowan's Teeth on Oct 6, 2005 12:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Despicable comment, and maybe the best of the week.

by Orson Swindle on Oct 6, 2005 12:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice, but I thought that those Greek Philosophers played a different kind of football…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Philosophers’_Football_Match

by Kanu on Oct 6, 2005 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Here it is, the link is not working properly:

The Philosophers’ Football Match was a comedy sketch on Monty Python’s Flying Circus.

The sketch depicted a football (soccer) match between philosophers representing Greece and Germany, including Plato, Socrates and Aristotle on the Greek team, and Heidegger, Marx and Nietzsche on the German team. Instead of playing, the philosophers competed by thinking. This left Franz Beckenbauer, the sole genuine footballer on the pitch (and a “surprise inclusion” in the German team, according to the commentary), more than a little confused. Confucius was the referee and Thomas Aquinas and St. Augustine were the linesmen.

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Full lineups
Germany

1 Leibnitz
2 I. Kant
3 Hegel
4 Schopenhauer
5 Schelling
6 Beckenbauer
7 Jaspers
8 Schlegel
9 Wittgenstein
10 Nietzsche (booked; dissent)
11 Heidegger
Karl Marx came on as substitute for Wittgenstein late on; the manager was Martin Luther.

Greece

1 Plato
2 Epiktet
3 Aristotles
4 Sophokles
5 Empedokles Von Acraga
6 Plotin
7 Epikur
8 Heraklit
9 Demokrit
10 Sokrates (captain)
11 Archimedes
(spellings are German transliterations from the original Greek names, these appear in the captions of the original TV programme, filmed in Germany)

Socrates scored the only goal of the match in the 89th minute, a diving header from a cross from Archimedes. Note that Sócrates was indeed a Brazilian soccer player.

by Kanu on Oct 6, 2005 3:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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